I think the rules are a giant wall of over verbose text. Even rule 1, which is missing one of our most represented varieties of person, in that case I think that "abusive" or some such term is all that is required. Rules are important to the continued success of our space, Noisebridge have proven this by having none, Noisebridge is now a squatters den. I think the rules can be done in a more relaxed way that has a less condescending opinion of our members and without loosing any meaning. I propose the below as a more welcoming, more readable, 1:1 replacement for the current rules. I am aware that this is going to be a long drawn out thread and am still willing to do what it takes to make them into something people might actually read, maybe even quote. Bracken (talk) 21:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
- re: rule 11, just FYI the local point of contact for emergency accommodation / housing / homelessness issues are the SCC run Street Homeless Prevention Team. Xanadu (talk) 00:21, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- I originally wrote these rules in January with consultation from our members on Google groups and they've served us well. Some of the rules can come across as patronizing and condescending but this is often the case with rules that are designed to cover us rather than to limit anything. I look upon them in the same way I look at a gun, “it’s better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it”. It is however true that some of our rules are duplicated, need rewriting or are indeed not rules but are general ethos and I welcome most of the proposed changes. Those rules that are not rules but general policy should not be so swiftly removed from our rules without making sure they are mentioned elsewhere somehow. -- Chris3DSmith (talk) 12:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that we should not remove anything that members should adhere to when removing duplicated rules, and ask that anyone feels free to edit my proposal below to include these in the remaining points. But I do not think that any "general ethos" should be included if it is not a rule. I do not see the rules as a gun that we should forget about until they are needed. I think they should be a concise document that people are actually willing to read, right now our members mostly do not, which I think is because they are too long and waffle about things that aren't rules. Bracken (talk) 14:07, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- Do not be on fire.
For all the rules below, the motto "if in doubt, ask" applies.
- Don't be abusive to any person.
- Don't use dangerous equipment alone ever.
- Respect people's property.
- Leave the space better than how you found it.
- Don't use the space for illegal or immoral purposes.
- Don't harm our reputation.
- Be a good neighbour.
- No industrial activity between 11pm and 7am by order of Southampton City Council.
- Keep your subscription up to date.
- Minors (under 18) may not enter the space without their parent/guardian. Said parent/guardian assumes all responsibility for the actions and safety of said minor.
- Nobody may use the makerspace as accommodation.
- Members must not operate hazardous equipment while their judgement or reaction times are impaired (whether due to alcohol, drugs, or any other condition).
- Stop and report any dangerous activity within the space.
- Emergency equipment (fire alarms, extinguishers, etc) must not be hacked or tampered with in any way, and are only for use in emergencies.
- Health and safety equipment (goggles, face masks, etc) must be worn when appropriate.
- Report any issues with health and safety or emergency equipment to a trustee ASAP.
- All accidents, near misses and possible health and safety issues no matter how small must be reported in the Accident Page and a trustee informed ASAP.
- All waste must be disposed of correctly.
- Don't be abusive to any person, you may be asked to leave or may even be banned from the space.
- Don't break the space, certain items should not be "hacked", please use common sense and avoid damaging things we need. If you don't know that you may hack something, ask someone who does, there is also a "hackables" shelf.
- Be a good neighbour, try not to make a noise problem and look after shared facilities.
- Please keep the space in a pleasant, clean and tidy state. Wash up any kitchenware and sweep up any sawdust etc. when you are finished, pack away your projects when you're working on them and put tools back where they belong. Hot food/drink etc is allowed however please be considerate of others with strong smelling foods.
- Ask before borrowing other peoples stuff, communal tools and equipment are listed on our wiki. If in doubt; ask.
- Please make sure your monthly subscription is paid in good time (see the members area) and if you decide to cancel your membership or have any issues paying your subscription please let us know as soon as possible.
- You may work on whatever projects you like, but if you think what you're doing might harm the groups reputation or might have a legal issue, you must ask a trustee before you continue.
- Under 18s may enter the space if accompanied by an adult who will responsible for their actions and safety.
- Industrial activity (soldering/using machinery) must be restricted between the hours of 11pm to 7am. This is a limit imposed by Southampton City Council.
- Nobody shall use hazardous equipment while alone in the space or without sufficient training. If you do not know how to use a tool you must ask for the assistance of someone who does. If you do not know if something is hazardous you must ask someone who does.
- Nobody may use the makerspace as accommodation. If you need emergency accommodation you are free to ask other members or contact the citizens advice bureau.
- Members must not operate hazardous equipment while impaired by alcohol or any other drug or condition. Any member concerned that another is so, should ask them to stop and inform a trustee as soon as possible.
- Health and safety equipment must not be interfered with or hacked in any way and only used in emergencies. Please report any issues with or use of the emergency equipment to a trustee as soon as possible.
- All accidents, near misses and possible health and safety issues no matter how small must be reported in the Accident Page and a trustee informed as soon as possible.
- All waste must be disposed of correctly, check material safety datasheets if you are unsure (eg. do not just pour acetone down the drain), please recycle.